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Join us in this episode as we speak with Dr. Mark McClellan, former CMS Administrator and former FDA Commissioner during SARS – his understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic and options for our national response is nearly unmatched. His unique insights into our health care system provide clarity around the new administration’s position on value-based care as well as offer understanding regarding what the presidential transition will mean for COVID-19 response efforts, including vaccine distribution.
Further, we highlight Dr. McClellans’s recent work on the Resiliency Framework with HCP LAN which presents a vision to create a health care system that is responsive and resilient to events like the current public health emergency and achieves better patient experience, outcomes, equity, quality, appropriateness, affordability and accessibility at a reduced total cost of care.
We have learned through the pandemic that we must upgrade our health care system – this is not the time to go back to health care the way it was before. Dr. McClellan’s work and insights are paramount for professionals in this race to value.
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02:37 Dr. McClellan shares his thoughts about the ACLC and the role it plays to advance VBC in our country
03:35 Will the next two years will either be a period of gridlock or a time of historic legislative productivity?
04:14 Economic response and COVID-19 Recovery Plan are the two big legislative issues for the upcoming year
04:24 Evenly-divided Presidential election and the “reverse coattail” effect
04:36 Best case for the Democrats is a 50/50 Senate with moderate Democrats being “thoughtful” about big progressive agenda items
04:55 Bipartisan legislation is most likely outcome (most big legislation items – other than COVID recovery – are not going to happen)
05:14 Other key priorities: climate change, racial issues
05:25 Longshots: Lowering the eligibility age of Medicare or a big coverage expansion (unless Supreme Court ruling somehow takes action on ACA)
06:00 ACA guaranteed issue and community rating provisions
06:23 Potential bipartisan interest: transparency and surprise billing, drug pricing, and value-based care
06:45 “Value-Based Care approaches are a bipartisan issue, but it may not continue quite in the same way.”
07:11 How the Biden Administration approach to VBC may be different
08:15 Health Care Payment Learning & Action Network trying to align public and private efforts on reform
09:15 “We can now see the light at the end of the tunnel. Vaccines are moving into more advanced development and availability”
09:26 “What we learned throughout the pandemic is that we really need to upgrade our health care system. This is why the work of the ACLC is particularly relevant now.”
10:00 Disruptions in our health care system due to massive reductions in revenue associated with shelter-in-place provisions.
11:30 “The farther away you were from fee-for-service, the more robust and resilient your care response was to the pandemic.”
11:56 Provider success stories in COVID: Advanced Integrated Care Systems (Intermountain, Geisinger) and Primary Care groups centered around capitation (Iora Health, Oak Street)
12:51 Hospital utilization returning back to pre-COVID levels
14:26 Advanced multidisciplinary primary care teams now including more virtual care and behavioral health integration
15:11 Shift to home dialysis for kidney disease and home drug infusion for cancer care
15:53 Social determinants of health enabled by capitation
16:26 Integrated approach to patient management for patients dealing with social isolation and depression consequences
16:45 Elimination of low-value care (the 30% of services that offer limited to no value in health outcomes)
17:05 NEJM Catalyst Article – Building a Better Health Care System Post-COVID-19: Steps for Reducing Low-Value and Wasteful Care
18:19 Payers providing financial relief to Primary Care and moving them to advanced physician-led ACOs (Blue Cross NC, Blue Cross Massachusetts, Blue Cross Minnesota, Blue Shield California)
19:20 Reforms in specialized payment reform models (BPCI, Maternity Care)
19:53 Private Equity investment in Alternative Payment Models (Aledade, Agilon, Optum)
20:33 Progress on Vaccines, Research, and Testing and “The Last Big Surge in the Pandemic”
20:50 Large employers taking more steps to VBC and Direct Contracting (Wal-Mart, Amazon)
21:30 Flexibility with telehealth and 3-Day Hospital stay rule
21:50 Supporting the longer-term predictable shifts due to VBC payment models
22:20 Using the Pandemic to address longstanding health equity concerns
23:05 “The Dark Winter” in the weeks ahead and how we get to a better health care system so we never have to do this again
25:55 Challenges in the Presidential transition and its effect on COVID recovery response planning
27:22 Paycheck Protection Program and other packages with economic implications
28:39 COVID PCR and POC antigen lab testing
31:05 The importance of reopening schools
31:46 FDA approval of monoclonal antibody treatment for COVID
33:30 Logistics to ensure equitable distribution of vaccines and distribution at scale
37:54 Efforts to make a longer-term sustainable investment in public health, contact tracing, and new diagnostic technologies as a result of the pandemic
43:33 How COVID-19 will create a more resilient American health system going forward
46:14 Health Care Payment Learning & Action Network Healthcare Resiliency Collaborative
49:22 The lame duck session focusing on health care resiliency and APMs to catalyze the VBC movement
50:30 If the pandemic showed us anything, it was that we really need value-based care”